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Chambers of Love: Prison Penpal Errata and Such

The following is reproduced verbatim from a letter I received yesterday, with my answers to my prison penpal's questions interspersed throughout in different color text. I didn’t know Exalted was popular in prison! That’s oddly exciting.


To White Wolf,


I am a federal prisoner and have ordered and received Exalted 2nd Edition and The Manual of Exalted Power—The Dragon-blooded. After Reading them and speaking to the gaming group there are three things that I am asking if you could expand on or what books the are present in.


Sure thing.


First, the demon realms and all things malfean are there any supplements released that have a more exhaustive detail? What are Infernal Exalted?


There hasn’t been a supplement released yet that expands on the realm of Malfeas, but The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. V—Malfeas is in editing right now. It will be out soon. As for Infernal Exalt, the term encompasses both the Green Sun Princes and the Exalted akuma. Basically, any Exalt who serves the Yozis and is reshaped body and soul to better do so. A Green Sun Prince is host to a Solar Exaltation twisted by the Yozis for their own dark purposes. Each such Infernal Exalt has access to powers beyond even the Exalted akuma and retains her freewill. Exalted akuma, on the other hand, are Exalts transformed into slaves of the Yozis in exchange for enormous power.


Second, the fair folk. Is there a second edition supplement that allows fair folk to be played? That greater details their powers and to use them as flushed out adversaries?


There is indeed. It’s Graceful Wicked Masques—The Fair Folk.


Third, spells and warstriders! Where can I find them? Is there a second edition supplement that details nothing but spells and warstriders?


These two things are split between two release. Warstrider rules and examples are to be found in The Books of Sorcery, Vol. I—Wonders of the Lost Age, while both sorcery and necromancy spells are in The Books of Sorcery, Vol. II—The White and Black Treatises.


I am also curious as to what dragon kings are?


The Dragon Kings are an ancient race of enlightened reptiles that ruled Creation and mankind before the events of the Primordial War. Degenerate remnants of the four breeds of Dragon Kings survive to the present day, most notably in the ruins of Rathess, their ancient capital.


Hey, while I am at it… in the [struck through "anatoginsti" here] antagonists section the God-Blooded have a “Inheritance” background. What is that?


It’s a Background that indicates the relative power of a God-Blood, based on the amount of supernatural power inherited from her divine parent. The Background is detailed in the upcoming Scroll of Heroes for all God-Bloods and more specifically for Demon-Blooded in The Manual of Exalted Power—The Infernals.


A game set in lost glory, where excess has led to destruction and loss, and returning … stigmatized into a world that so desperately hates and needs the solars … is a great game to play in prison.


I can see where that would be true.


What new releases are scheduled for Exalted? What is the entire available line up?


Upcoming new release include Graceful Wicked Masques—The Fair Folk, The Art of Exalted, The Compass of Terrestrial Directions, Vol. IV—The South, The Compass of Terrestrial Directions, Vol. V—The North, The Manual of Exalted Power—The Infernals, The Manual of Exalted Power—The Alchemicals, The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. V—Malfeas, Scroll of Exalts and a surprise or two that have yet to be announced.


As far as what’s already been released, there’s a great deal available: Exalted Second Edition, Exalted Storytellers Companion, Exalted Storytellers Screen, Exalted Character Sheet Pad, Exalted Dice Set, Return to the Tomb of 5 Corners, The Manual of Exalted Power—The Dragon-Blooded, The Manual of Exalted Power—The Lunars, The Manual of Exalted Power—The Sidereals, The Manual of Exalted Power—The Abyssals, The Books of Sorcery, Vol. I—Wonders of the Lost Age,  The Books of Sorcery, Vol. II—The White and Black Treatises, The Books of Sorcery, Vol. III—Oadenol’s Codex, The Books of Sorcery, Vol. IV—The Roll of Glorious Divinity I, The Books of Sorcery, Vol. V—The Roll of Glorious Divinity II, The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. I—The Blessed Isle, The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. II—The Wyld, The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. III—Yu-Shan, The Compass of Celestial Directions, Vol. IV—The Underworld, The Compass of Terrestrial Directions, Vol. I—The Scavenger Lands, The Compass of Terrestrial Directions, Vol. II—The West, The Compass of Terrestrial Directions, Vol. III—The East, Scroll of the Monk, Scroll of the Monk—The Imperfect Lotus, Scroll of Kings, The Mandate of Heaven, Lost Arts of the Dead, Daughter of Nexus, Exalted Battlewheel (free download), Exalted Charm Cards (free download) and Dreams of the First Age.


Not having internet access, and family and friends who aren’t that savvy with the internet makes it really hard to find out what is going on and what is up and coming. If there is any catalog that would be greatly appreciated.


There isn’t a printed catalog, but I’ll see what I can do.


Thank you very much for your time and patience. I so very much appreciate the help.


Not a problem.





PS. Is Graceful Wicked Masques The Fair Folk released yet? If not when is it do? thx J


Interestingly, I was talking to my co-worker Jason just yesterday, and he informs me that the release date has now been moved again, this time to February 4th. trust me, I’m pissed and want my copy as well.


Well, that’s it for this week’s post. I’ll talk to you guys and gals in a couple of weeks. Till then, stay on the right side of the law so you can continue reading this LJ.


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From: plague_of_hats Date: January 14th, 2009 11:25 pm (UTC) (Link)
That was odd.
zombie_all_star From: zombie_all_star Date: January 15th, 2009 12:18 am (UTC) (Link)


Mr Chambers.
I've recently picked up the new dnd editions and started running them for my gaming group. I'm a session in, and i'm not liking the system, and the setting is fairly uninspiring, so i've picked up my copies of Exalted 2nd ed.

Let me start with how much i loved the first edition, and how much i love the setting. I'm a massive white wolf fan and think you produce some exceptional games.
When the second edition came out, i ditched my first edition books, because the new edition is always better.

Which is why i am so disappointed with the current edition of exalted.

The combat system is a massive turn off for me. It's so complex with so many rolls and stages, and ensures a short combat can take a soul destroying amount of time.
I'm not sure i can get my head around the mental defense concept. No other game i know of uses it, and i believe it's an unnecessary complication.

This isn't meant to be a negative post, but i wanted to express my frustration at a game i really enjoyed in first edition now becoming unplayable to me.

Are you planning on revising the combat system at any point, or bringing the system into line with the WoD system?
grandexperiment From: grandexperiment Date: January 15th, 2009 01:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Differences

I too became disillusioned with Exalted with 2e. It broke far more than it fixed IMO. Fortunately, I kept all my 1e books so I can still continue to use those.

I am looking forward to seeing what Exalted 3e looks like :)
rolandx From: rolandx Date: January 15th, 2009 03:09 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Differences

My two bits on 2e, worth every penny you paid for them:

First of all, everyone needs to take my commentary with a couple thousand grains of salt for a couple of reasons. One, I'm running a one-player campaign for my wife. We have a very healthy relationship, so there aren't any stupid gamer tricks in play. Two, after more than six straight years of playing, her Melee-based Dawn is Essence 7, complete with the DotFA Charms. The only canon Melee Charms she doesn't have are the multiple action ones...because she _doesn't need them._ I narrate combat for all but the most awesome of situations (titanic behemoths, Second and Third Circle Demons, Unshaped Raksha, other Essence 6+ Celestial Exalted, Deathlords, etc).

I'm a lot happier with the carefully constructed hierarchy of Charm-based combat, but I really wish that more Charm designers took them into account (ex.: the ghost Charms in RoGD II _really_ need tags for the ones that revolve around Social effects; there's no obvious Solar defenses against them as written). Then again, most of the oversights are very easy to do the math on, IMHO. The clearly defined nature of UF vs. IO makes adjudicating a lot of things a lot simpler.

We converted most of our rules to 2e when it came out, but I deliberately kept two "artifacts" from 1e: turns and active defenses (at least for dramatic one-on-one duels, in the latter case). We tried ticks, but they just sucked all the drama out of battle. Passive defenses, likewise, made combat less exciting due to a reduced instance of stunting. By the time I got around to using PD for lesser foes, it stopped mattering because she can pretty much obliterate any army not led by a Celestial Exalt (or equivalent) in a few turns. Normal turns, not "long ticks" (which I have adapted as "long turns," BTW). I'm especially fond of Excellencies, since they neatly define something that was clearly intended to be a core principle of the system from the beginning. My only complaint was the retcon removal of scene-long Excellencies from DBs in 2e, when I based my warstrider pilot/martial artist NPC entirely around the concept. OTOH, Heroic Gladiator Style came out of that, so it's all good.

The only other major change I'm implementing is the slow un-Perfecting of Perfects. When both characters in a fight have Perfect Defenses, it turns combat into a strategic game of wearing down the other Exalt's Essence Pool. I'm sure that's cool for some people, but I got into Exalted (and got my wife into Exalted) because it's the best game I've yet seen for over-the-top OMFG did-she-really-just-do-that action-adventure. (The OMFG moment that came to her mind was the time she sliced the river dragon in half...back when she was a baby Solar, in the second or third adventure.)

Anyway, Perfects. With the Age changing, I'm literally rewriting the rules of Heaven and Earth, and the nature of Celestial Exaltation itself is changing. Basically, what are now Perfects will probably be known as Supernal Defenses or the like; they have the _potential_ to dodge/parry/block anything, but you still have to roll it when you're up against other Celestials or equivalents. (They're still truly Perfect against Terrestrials, mortals, and mundane threats, so no trying to figure out the difficulty of parrying that avalanche.) You also get the equivalent of your maximum Excellency die pool/auto successes on the defense, so the attacker's going to have to spend a lot of Essence (and probably use a Combo) to even have a prayer of getting around a Supernal Defense.

All in all, though, and this is obviously all IMO, I have to say a _lot_ of stuff was made significantly clearer in 2e. Lunars went from broken to awesome, the other Exalted got cleaner Charm sets except for the Sidereals (whom I gave Spheres instead of Astrology back in 1e anyway), the Charm system for gods and demons is more linear, which is mostly for the better, and Social combat exists now.
(/) Roland X
Hope is a phoenix
jagwire From: jagwire Date: January 15th, 2009 04:40 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Differences

That is so cool. I imagine roleplaying would make prison a little easier to bear. Although I can also imagine the shenanigans trying to teach some of the popular prisoner stereotypes to roleplay...
wyrm_chris From: wyrm_chris Date: January 15th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Differences

So not what this LJ entry is about, dude.
zombie_all_star From: zombie_all_star Date: January 15th, 2009 08:12 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Differences

So is my question or the way i feel any less relevant?
John's post is about somebody loving the game despite their circumstances.
Mine is about wanting to love the game, but finding that i can't.
There's some really good comments and replies above, including an example of game love overcoming the perceived limitations of the game.
count_nemo From: count_nemo Date: January 15th, 2009 01:33 am (UTC) (Link)

A strikethrough in HTML can be accomplished using the <del> tag.

<del>anatoginsti</del> becomes anatoginsti

Knowing is half the battle!
wyrm_chris From: wyrm_chris Date: January 15th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC) (Link)
I didn’t know Exalted was popular in prison!

From: operations Date: January 16th, 2009 09:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wait a minute... my tax dollars are going towards letting prisoners play RPGs when I can't afford to play them as much as I want? WTF? (And I'm not talking Werewolf here either...)
From: petterwass Date: January 17th, 2009 12:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
There are worse ways to spend them.
dawngreeter From: dawngreeter Date: January 17th, 2009 12:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
That's an odd complaint, seeing how the remaining 99.99% of your tax money goes to the rich and the military industrial complex.
mythicfox From: mythicfox Date: January 17th, 2009 10:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
Odds are your tax dollars aren't actually paying for the RPG books themselves, if that helps.
razorwolf From: razorwolf Date: January 18th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for posting this, John. I can't imagine how hard everyday life is in prison, and hearing that a prisoner enjoys one of the same hobbies that I do is somehow humanizing.

Also, Scroll of Exalts? Cool. I didn't see Scroll of Heroes listed with the upcoming release list, but these are different books, correct?
razorwolf From: razorwolf Date: January 22nd, 2009 01:33 am (UTC) (Link)
Ack, just found the post that announced Scroll of Exalts. I'm gonna go sit at the kiddie table now.
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